Melvin once again shows his ignorance

by Stancel Spemcer

Tuesday, 28 August 2007 17:20:28 -0400

Stancel,

Now connect your statements and prove that social democrats who signed the party statement of principles just as you did are capitalist. Social Democracy is not capitalist, it is a "stage" of responsibility to the next level towards democratic socialism. What in reality or theory is all but smoke and mirrors. Without one there cannot be the other in transition. I openly invite in your own words the "Plan" to move the Left forward with opinion but rather hard facts.

Atlee Yarrow

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Stancel Spencer wrote:

1) I'm not a Trotskyist. I have opposed and still oppose Trotskyism, and I would oppose the SP becoming Trotskyist. However, I accept Trotskyist members and can respect them much more than capitalist fools like you. I especially strongly oppose social democracy as it is a form of capitalism insidiously posing as socialism.

2) I don't live in a "comfortable lily white" neighborhood (I guess that implied I was upper class or something).....I have throughout my life lived in lower class neighborhoods, not out of choice but of circumstance, I lived in lower class apartments, I currently live in a trailer park. Neither of them are "lily white"....now I don't know why you are projecting (as Freud would say) your self-guilt over your upper class life on me because I don't live your life :)

3) I also think it is interesting how engage in such an ageist attack. Is that why you wanted to abolish the Statement of Principles? So outright bigotry can be accepted?

"We are dedicated to the abolition of male supremacy and class society, and to the elimination of all forms of oppression, including those based on race, national origin, age, sexual preferences, and disabling conditions."

Good one.

4) The Second International (sic) is a capitalist conglomerate....from New Labour to Mubarak's party-of-dictatorship.