READ THIS: Bill Gheen Hates Morrissey and the Left!

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:08:20 EDT

Dearest Bill Gheen,

Bill Gheen and I used to [be] very good friends. We started working together as the two leftists with the College Democrats at East Carolina University. The ECU College Democrats were a very moderate group. Bill moved to the right, and I moved further left. He became a Pat Buchanan Republican, and I turned into a Norman Thomas Socialist. As our politics sharply differed, our [personalities] started clashing more. Read this exchange, and tell me what you think? If this post [appears] stupid, remember that Bill Gheen is the source. Our flame war started as a result of his homophobic inspired hatred of Morrissey. Bill Gheen looks and dresses like Andrew Hammer. Someone should contact Andrew Hammer and have him sue Bill Gheen for Copyright Infringement.

---Melvin Little


Your hatred of The Smiths and Morrissey makes me admire them more than ever.

Bill Gheen writes: I'm sorry to have to say this, but you are delusional. I am fine with the fact Melvin Little can live without Bill Gheen and I don't lose a night of sleep about it. The unfortunate fact is that your problems with me putting you down and causing you problems with Natalie Dennis and Laura Ezzell and Tina Cowan etc... are really just your insecurities.

You did this on purpose. Don't even dare deny it. I am only glad that the situation was [straigtened] out with Laura Ezzell and Tina Cowan; I am glad that things are good between me and them. Natelie Dennis is a different story.

Bill Gheen writes: You flipped out because I went to eat dinner with Natalie Dennis and you threw a fit. You asked if anything had happened and I joked, oh yea..we did it doggie style. I had no idea you had some secret crush on her, you never told me that. You took that as me saying "Looky here Melvin, I (Bill Gheen) succeed romantically where you do not"

You had every idea at the time. It was no secret. And YES, you did go and illustrated a "Looky here Melvin, I (Bill Gheen) succeed romantically where you (Melvin Little) did not." There was no reason for it. I matched you up with Jen Doety, and you repay me by throwing egg at my face about my women dating problems. You (Bill Gheen) are a sexist, and I (Melvin Little) support feminism. I was attracted to Natelie, and you did what you could to prevent me from going out with her.

Bill Gheen writes: Me, I never thought of it that way. When I lost weight and told you how I did it and encouraged you, you took that as me putting you down.

You referred to me as undisciplined. How about dicipline here? I lost my 45 pounds my way, not the way that Bill Gheen instructed me to. Your comments about me being pudgy will not have any merit. I am thin today, and your fun poking of my weight will be no more.

Bill Gheen writes: You take everything as an affront and put down, even from people that encourage you to do things like exercise and finish college. Put any girl in the equation and you are ready to explode. You are venting your own feelings of inadequacy and you have falsely labeled me as an antagonist. That's about you man, not me.

You didn't cause any problems that I had. What you did is taken advantage of my depression and made it worst in order to make me feel shittier about myself. I would never do that to anyone; that's the difference between me and you.

Bill Gheen writes: You misread my statement about the College Dems. I agree, when I was in it we were a moderate group. The current group at ECU in 2004 is not a moderate group. They are militant gays and fems that are pushing the gay marriage agenda.

God bless them! I want total equality for gays and lesbians, including their right to marry, adopt, and live as equals among straights. I want the feminist agenda (the radical notion that women are people) to succeed. And if the College Dems are "further left today," that's fantasitc!

Bill Gheen writes: I'm sorry that you think someone that doesn't support those things is 'far right' but in truth..believing marriage is between a man and a woman and that people should act with morals is not far right wing. That was the main stream that made this country what it is that is suffering changes from leftist corporate influences. [Editr's note: "leftist corporate agendas?"]

You don't have any morals. And marriage is supposed to be an institution between two people that love each other. This counts for man and woman or woman and woman or man or man. If you want to be primitive and think that same sex marriage is wrong, it is your right. Just as the time that legalized interacial marriages were realized, same-sex marriage will be legal. I am glad that justice is something that can't be stopped.

Bill Gheen writes: I have always encouraged my friends not to let women use them, and if I said anything like that to you in the past then it was [probably] good advice. Not that you ever took advice.

No one uses me. You, on the other hand, can't talk about successful relationships. Most of the women you dated finally get a clue. Whenever you can have something called a "successful, [fulfilling], and lasting relationship" of your own, then you can [advise] me.

Bill Gheen writes: I believe the real point we stopped hanging out Melvin was when I actually graduated college after so many struggles. I had hoped to spend a night surrounded by my friends celebrating. What I ended up with was the first party where anything was broken or stolen. You and Brett Greene vandalized my car, destroyed furniture, and who knows what happened to the wireless phone.

Just like the Revision History that the right-wing media fed to our society this past week in regard to the legacy of Ronald Reagan, you are also engaging in Revision History. I NEVER vanadalized your car, destroyed your (cheap) furniture, nor done anything to your wireless phone. If Brett Greene did this, that's not my concern. However I recall you (and some others) trying to push that dumb green dumpster out on the railroad track. Luckily, it was too heavy.

Bill Gheen writes: When I looked out the door you were walking off with the biggest piece of shit to ever walk through Greenville.

Actually, I walked with a bigger piece of shit in Greenville. He's the one that accused me of vandalism of someone's car, destruction of someone's cheap furniture, and doing heaven knows what with the wireless phone.

Bill Gheen writes: Then when we were about to run him out of town for robbing, stealing, lying, and hurting people like Shana and Suzanne Gallager, you gave him a place to stay at the apartment your parents were renting for you.

I was in a situation with Chance and Carley. Although this (by no means) would be considered a negative assualt of their character, Chance and Carely didn't know any better at the time. This is really ancient history here. Besides, you never did care for Shana Conner. I was the only person that was there for her when everything fell apart in 1995. Of course, that was part of the reason I ended up moving out of Greenville. Suzanne Gallager is not a saint, so don't expect me to have any pitty for her.

Bill Gheen writes: You supported a boy that told girls he had [AIDS] just to make them panic after he had sex with them. ['Bout] as low as you can go.

You bragged to me about the horrible things you made some girls do to and for you, and it is low as well.

Bill Gheen writes: I guess me actually graduating college was me saying "I'm Bill Gheen and I graduated college and you [didn't] Melvin" in your jealous and insecure mind.

You are the one sounding delusional now; furthermore, you about to force me to say this. Regarding to finishing college, good for you. I have my reasons for not finishing at that time. You know it was my depression at the time, and I will have a degree before I turn 40. Here's the thing. Although this is a bit of class war in reverse on my part, my trade union job pays 11.25 an hour, free medical care, 3 weeks vacation time, guarantteed pension upon retirement, and broad job place fairness. After college, you worked on fly by night campaigns and had part time jobs to make ends meet. You seemed unwilling to settle down to a stable 40 hour weekly job, because your [oppertumistic] aim in life is to acquire political power to sit in a comfortable desk job for life. And they say that socialism promotes laziness...

On the other hand, I make an honest living. It is not glamouress work, but it is a fairly good paying service sector job. I can thank the people from the United Food & Commercial Workers Local 204 that I have [benefits] and actually was able to survive through this Bush created recession. Others with advanced degrees weren't so lucky, and I feel for them. I am for democratic-socialism, because I want to guaranttee the good life for everyone. I look at former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland who was the first female prime minister of Norway, the current Director General of the World Health Organization, a highly respected socialist-feminist inside the Norwegian Labour Party, and one of the 23 Vice Presidents of the Socialist International. Then I look at the Bill Gheen way of life and politics that actually thinks the Drudge Report is a credible source for news. You are part of that Fox News [driven] brainwashed political movement. Dude, "The Night of the Living Dead" goes back to 1968, so stop doing the political [re-enactment] of that movie.

Bill Gheen writes: I have continued to be fairly kind to you Melvin even though you made it abundantly clear in 99 that you could not hang out with me because you tend to look at everything as putting you down and making you feel worthless.

Many people have concurred that you treated me rotten. You embarrassed me in front of Laura Ezzell. I have been a good friend to you as people abandoned you. Since knowing you, you had about 35 to 40 roomates that you lived with. I can't beleive that just about everyone of them left in "bad terms" with you that it was all their fault.

Bill Gheen writes: You were what I call a foul weather friend Melvin. A foul weather friend loves to hang out and be social with you when you are depressed and your life sucks. But if things improve and get better, well a foul weather friend won't like you very much anymore. A foul weather friend is more interested in finding people to mope with and be depressed and if you don't fit that mold and are happier, then a foul weather friend cant stand that.

As usual, you are wrong. I have some friends that make more money than I do. And of course, I have some friends that make less money. Your point is moot.

Bill Gheen writes: It took me many years to learn that some of the people I had surrounded myself with were a big part of the problem I was having. That and my own thinking.

Your thinking then and now might have something to do with your downfalls (then and now) in life.

Bill Gheen writes: I'm much happier now,

Are you really?

Bill Gheen writes: things are much better, and I actually feel great about what I'm doing everyday.

I said this to you a few years ago in anger, and I will say it again. Bill, you are not even a sell out, because to be a sell-out implies a modest level of success. And certainly, no one can accuse you of being successful.

Bill Gheen writes: I have a nice girlfriend and great dog. I am gaining popularity as a Republican consultant and I'm working with about 8 candidates.

And that is supposed to impress me?

Bill Gheen writes: I work 15 hours a day to do everything I can to make sure some of the things you support are defeated or diminished.

Likewise, my foul weather friend.

Bill Gheen writes: So you've said your piece, and Ive said mine.

You were the one that started this, and I respond in kind.

Bill Gheen writes: You know as well as I do that I didn't really fit in with your crowd in the first place.

True. My crowd are actually cool people.

Bill Gheen writes: I wish you much happiness in the future, congrats on your weight loss, always remember the good times we had and let's leave it at that.

Whatever is bothering you in life, I hope that you get help. Congrats on your weight loss. I will wish you the perfect relationship when you finally know how to treat women with the respect, dignity, love, and honor they are entitled to.

Bill Gheen writes: Leave radical left women alone.

Thank goodness for the radical left women, and I hope that [they] come to one your political events and say "We're Here, We're Feminists, and We're In Your Face!" From Golda Meir to Anna Lindh, I admire socialist-feminism!

Goodbye Bill

Bill Gheen writes: This my last e-mail to you.

Promises! Promises



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